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From 1.5 to 2.0. Can't get it running

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  • xydixX Offline
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    xydix
    wrote on last edited by xydix
    #3

    Yeah i saw this after i got in bed so i was about to try this in the morning.
    But thank you for your answer.
    Now i got my GW running but i got a new problem.

    If my node fail to deleiver a message for the last 6 tries i "gives up"

    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:1
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=2,st=ok:0
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:1
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=2,st=fail:0
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=3,st=fail:1
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=4,st=fail:0
    !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=5,st=fail:1
    !TSM:UPL FAIL, SNP
    TSM:FPAR
    TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
    !TSP:SEND:TNR
    !TSP:SEND:TNR
    !TSP:SEND:TNR
    !TSP:SEND:TNR
    !TSP:SEND:TNR
    !TSP:SEND:TNR
    !TSP:SEND:TNR
    

    After this i can't get it to transmit any more and i have to push the resetbutton.
    In this example i use a binary switch, pushing my button and when i hold my hand over the radio so the signal won't reach my GW this happends.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks.

    sundberg84S tekkaT 2 Replies Last reply
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    • xydixX xydix

      Yeah i saw this after i got in bed so i was about to try this in the morning.
      But thank you for your answer.
      Now i got my GW running but i got a new problem.

      If my node fail to deleiver a message for the last 6 tries i "gives up"

      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:1
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=2,st=ok:0
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:1
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=2,st=fail:0
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=3,st=fail:1
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=4,st=fail:0
      !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=5,st=fail:1
      !TSM:UPL FAIL, SNP
      TSM:FPAR
      TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
      !TSP:SEND:TNR
      !TSP:SEND:TNR
      !TSP:SEND:TNR
      !TSP:SEND:TNR
      !TSP:SEND:TNR
      !TSP:SEND:TNR
      !TSP:SEND:TNR
      

      After this i can't get it to transmit any more and i have to push the resetbutton.
      In this example i use a binary switch, pushing my button and when i hold my hand over the radio so the signal won't reach my GW this happends.
      Any thoughts?
      Thanks.

      sundberg84S Offline
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      sundberg84
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      @xydix - i think @tekka can say exatcly but i read somewhere he wrote that it will pause for some time before trying to discover again. If it fails 6 times again it makes a new pause.

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      • xydixX xydix

        Yeah i saw this after i got in bed so i was about to try this in the morning.
        But thank you for your answer.
        Now i got my GW running but i got a new problem.

        If my node fail to deleiver a message for the last 6 tries i "gives up"

        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:1
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=2,st=ok:0
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:1
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=2,st=fail:0
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=3,st=fail:1
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=4,st=fail:0
        !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=5,st=fail:1
        !TSM:UPL FAIL, SNP
        TSM:FPAR
        TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
        !TSP:SEND:TNR
        !TSP:SEND:TNR
        !TSP:SEND:TNR
        !TSP:SEND:TNR
        !TSP:SEND:TNR
        !TSP:SEND:TNR
        !TSP:SEND:TNR
        

        After this i can't get it to transmit any more and i have to push the resetbutton.
        In this example i use a binary switch, pushing my button and when i hold my hand over the radio so the signal won't reach my GW this happends.
        Any thoughts?
        Thanks.

        tekkaT Offline
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        tekka
        Admin
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        @xydix I suggest you try these changes:

        • Increase TX power on both, GW and node, using
        #define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_MAX
        
        • Increase distance between GW and node if they are too close (>5m)
        • Add/substitute radio caps, ideally >100uF
        • If none of that helps, please upload both sketches for further troubleshooting
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        • xydixX Offline
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          xydix
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          Thank you guys for answers.
          @tekka
          What i want here is to know my sensors won't get in a state when i have to reset them.
          I have one door sensor that is to far away and sometimes it won't reach the gateway. I will fix this later.
          But still, i want to be sure my sensors reconnect to my GW.
          If i for some reason have to disconnect my GW and open some doors, this will result in that i have to reset them later when my GW is up.
          Thanks for reminding me to define PA level. Totally forgot about that.

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          • xydixX xydix

            Thank you guys for answers.
            @tekka
            What i want here is to know my sensors won't get in a state when i have to reset them.
            I have one door sensor that is to far away and sometimes it won't reach the gateway. I will fix this later.
            But still, i want to be sure my sensors reconnect to my GW.
            If i for some reason have to disconnect my GW and open some doors, this will result in that i have to reset them later when my GW is up.
            Thanks for reminding me to define PA level. Totally forgot about that.

            tekkaT Offline
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            tekka
            Admin
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @xydix said:

            But still, i want to be sure my sensors reconnect to my GW.

            As @sundberg84 pointed out, your node will try to reconnect after a timeout. Furthermore, you can prevent the node from searching a new parent after too many fails by setting a static parent (assumption: GW is the parent node):

            #define MY_PARENT_NODE_ID 0
            #define MY_PARENT_NODE_IS_STATIC
            
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              xydix
              wrote on last edited by xydix
              #8

              @tekka I left it running with the serial montor for about an hour but it didn't reconnect. Only !TSP:SEND:TNR
              I guess i have to set a static parent.
              What is the point of this? Was it the same in 1.5?

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              • xydixX Offline
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                xydix
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                I searched the forum and found a thread about this.
                @tekka you posted this:

                replace

                sleep(30000);
                

                with

                if(isTransportOK()){
                    sleep(30000);  // transport is OK, node can sleep
                  } 
                  else {
                    wait(5000); // transport is not operational, allow the transport layer to fix this
                  }
                

                And this will do it.
                Now my node reconnect.
                Is this the best way to do it?
                I use battery powered sensors. Will this drain my batteries?
                Will my node sleep as it should?
                Haven't hade the time to measure this yet.

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                • xydixX xydix

                  I searched the forum and found a thread about this.
                  @tekka you posted this:

                  replace

                  sleep(30000);
                  

                  with

                  if(isTransportOK()){
                      sleep(30000);  // transport is OK, node can sleep
                    } 
                    else {
                      wait(5000); // transport is not operational, allow the transport layer to fix this
                    }
                  

                  And this will do it.
                  Now my node reconnect.
                  Is this the best way to do it?
                  I use battery powered sensors. Will this drain my batteries?
                  Will my node sleep as it should?
                  Haven't hade the time to measure this yet.

                  tekkaT Offline
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                  tekka
                  Admin
                  wrote on last edited by tekka
                  #10

                  @xydix of course, if you have a sleeping node, this will ensure link re-establishment

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                  • xydixX Offline
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                    xydix
                    wrote on last edited by xydix
                    #11

                    I had it working like one day.
                    Now i have problems again. :-1:
                    Right now i am only using 2 nodes, batterypowered doorswitches.
                    I did a small change in one of my sketches, after that it didn't present itself to the GW/controller I guess.
                    I use Home Assistant as controller, and i deleted my "mysensors.json-file" to do a fresh start.
                    After this i can't get any node working.
                    Side by side log from serial monitor:
                    0_1473238590913_upload-d9867691-1703-476d-b2b4-509fd60e799d

                    @tekka GW recive messages, right? But node don't receive it?

                    @martinhjelmare
                    I hope you are the right person to ask because i use Home Assistant.
                    Can you please check my sketch.
                    Like i said, earlier it woked.
                    No error in HA log.

                    /**
                     * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                     * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                     * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                     * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                     * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                     *
                     * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                     * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                     * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                     *
                     * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                     * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                     *
                     * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                     * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                     * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                     *
                     *******************************
                     *
                     * DESCRIPTION
                     *
                     * Interrupt driven binary switch example with dual interrupts
                     * Author: Patrick 'Anticimex' Fallberg
                     * Connect one button or door/window reed switch between 
                     * digitial I/O pin 3 (BUTTON_PIN below) and GND and the other
                     * one in similar fashion on digital I/O pin 2.
                     * This example is designed to fit Arduino Nano/Pro Mini
                     * 
                     */
                    
                    
                    // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                    #define MY_DEBUG 
                    
                    // Enable and select radio type attached
                    #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                    //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                    #define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_MAX
                    
                    #include <SPI.h>
                    #include <MySensors.h>
                    
                    #define SKETCH_NAME "Basementdoor"
                    #define SKETCH_MAJOR_VER "1"
                    #define SKETCH_MINOR_VER "0"
                    
                    int BATTERY_SENSE_PIN = A0;  // select the input pin for the battery sense point
                    int oldBatteryPcnt = 0;
                    #define CHILD_ID 3
                    
                    
                    #define BUTTON_PIN 3   // Arduino Digital I/O pin for button/reed switch
                    
                    
                    // Change to V_LIGHT if you use S_LIGHT in presentation below
                    MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID, V_TRIPPED);
                    
                    
                    void setup()  
                    {  
                      
                           // use the 1.1 V internal reference
                    #if defined(__AVR_ATmega2560__)
                       analogReference(INTERNAL1V1);
                    #else
                       analogReference(INTERNAL);
                    #endif
                      
                      // Setup the buttons
                      pinMode(BUTTON_PIN, INPUT);
                      
                    
                      // Activate internal pull-ups
                    //  digitalWrite(PRIMARY_BUTTON_PIN, HIGH);
                    
                    }
                    
                    void presentation() {
                      // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                      sendSketchInfo(SKETCH_NAME, SKETCH_MAJOR_VER "." SKETCH_MINOR_VER);
                    
                      // Register binary input sensor to sensor_node (they will be created as child devices)
                      // You can use S_DOOR, S_MOTION or S_LIGHT here depending on your usage. 
                      // If S_LIGHT is used, remember to update variable type you send in. See "msg" above.
                      present(CHILD_ID, S_DOOR);  
                    }
                    
                    // Loop will iterate on changes on the BUTTON_PINs
                    void loop() 
                    {
                      uint8_t value;
                      static uint8_t sentValue=2;
                      
                      // Short delay to allow buttons to properly settle
                      sleep(5);
                      
                      value = digitalRead(BUTTON_PIN);
                      
                      if (value != sentValue) {
                         // Value has changed from last transmission, send the updated value
                         send(msg.set(value==HIGH ? 0 : 1));
                         sentValue = value;
                      }
                    
                          // get the battery Voltage
                       int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);
                       #ifdef MY_DEBUG
                       Serial.println(sensorValue);
                       #endif
                       
                       // 1M, 470K divider across battery and using internal ADC ref of 1.1V
                       // Sense point is bypassed with 0.1 uF cap to reduce noise at that point
                       // ((1e6+470e3)/470e3)*1.1 = Vmax = 3.44 Volts
                       // 3.44/1023 = Volts per bit = 0.003363075
                       
                       int batteryPcnt = sensorValue / 10;
                    
                       #ifdef MY_DEBUG
                       float batteryV  = sensorValue * 0.003363075;
                       Serial.print("Battery Voltage: ");
                       Serial.print(batteryV);
                       Serial.println(" V");
                    
                       Serial.print("Battery percent: ");
                       Serial.print(batteryPcnt);
                       Serial.println(" %");
                       #endif
                    
                       if (oldBatteryPcnt != batteryPcnt) {
                         // Power up radio after sleep
                         sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                         oldBatteryPcnt = batteryPcnt;
                       }
                      
                      // Sleep until something happens with the sensor
                      if(isTransportOK()){
                        sleep(BUTTON_PIN-2, CHANGE, 0);  // transport is OK, node can sleep
                      } 
                      else {
                        wait(5000); // transport is not operational, allow the transport layer to fix this
                      }
                      
                      
                    } 
                    

                    I read this:
                    Send at least one initial value per V_TYPE. In version 2.0 of MySensors this has to be done in the loop function. See below for an example in 2.0 of how to make sure the initial value has been received by the controller.
                    But not sure if it is needed here and how to put that in my sketch. Please help a Newbe.
                    Edit:
                    BTW. I guess many had problem like this due to powering problems. When i measure, it's steady 3,36V on VCC and on my radio.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      Okay, i think i found a solution.
                      On my sensors i removed the onboard voltage regulator.
                      By coincidence i powered my sensor from only one AA battery when i was testing. I use battery booster and 2 AA otherwise.
                      Sudenly it worked. Presentation happend and sensor is working.
                      I measured again with a better multimeter. With one AA battery: 3,34V, with two AA batteries: 3,38V.
                      I tested several times and this is really the issue. I guess the pro mini or the radio is sensitive when it comes to higher voltage than 3.3V
                      After presentation i added the second battery without disconnecting and now it works.
                      This was never a problem with Mysensors 1.5.
                      Is the presentation more "sensitive" in 2.0?
                      Can anyone explain why this happend? Someone said that the NRF24-radio can handle up to 3,6V.
                      Anyone know how to "fix" a batterybooster?

                      Please, if someone know. Tell me/us.

                      BUT! If you have problems with a sensor and use batterybooster/ removed onboard voltage regulator. Check voltage.

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                      • xydixX xydix

                        Okay, i think i found a solution.
                        On my sensors i removed the onboard voltage regulator.
                        By coincidence i powered my sensor from only one AA battery when i was testing. I use battery booster and 2 AA otherwise.
                        Sudenly it worked. Presentation happend and sensor is working.
                        I measured again with a better multimeter. With one AA battery: 3,34V, with two AA batteries: 3,38V.
                        I tested several times and this is really the issue. I guess the pro mini or the radio is sensitive when it comes to higher voltage than 3.3V
                        After presentation i added the second battery without disconnecting and now it works.
                        This was never a problem with Mysensors 1.5.
                        Is the presentation more "sensitive" in 2.0?
                        Can anyone explain why this happend? Someone said that the NRF24-radio can handle up to 3,6V.
                        Anyone know how to "fix" a batterybooster?

                        Please, if someone know. Tell me/us.

                        BUT! If you have problems with a sensor and use batterybooster/ removed onboard voltage regulator. Check voltage.

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                        martinhjelmare
                        Plugin Developer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @xydix

                        Sketch looks OK. Sounds like a hardware issue. Have you tried replacing booster and/or radio?

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