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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • M Matt

    @sundberg84
    Thanks for your reply. Given I've done six or seven to date without issue I am somewhat skeptical that I have borked two in a row. I use a fine tip hakko iron, solder sucker, wick + a tiny wee flathead screwdriver for the butchery.
    Maybe its time I invested in a magnifying glass heh.
    Is it necessary to remove the vreg as I would think its not doing anything anyway as we are powering via VCC rather than raw?

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    sundberg84
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    @Matt - Sounds strange. Magnifying glass is cheap and good :+1:

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      @Matt - Sounds strange. Magnifying glass is cheap and good :+1:

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      @sundberg84
      Yeah it is a bit. As I said, may yet be a bad batch, too busy with other things right now to test a third one.
      Mind you, just found this and as I suspected, there appears to be no point in removing the regulator if we are powering directly via vcc.

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      • M Matt

        Hey I recently got a batch of ten pro 3.3v pro minis from ebay, I removed vreg + LED on two of them and they no longer work... Well, I cant upload. I have done this low power mod heaps of times, the boards are different from ones Ive seen before, has anyone here had this problem? Or am I just a problem magnet? Have yet to solder programming headers on a non modified board to see if its a bad batch... Maybe main power is routed through the vreg or LED regardless or something? I dont have the eyesight or mag abilities to play around...
        0_1482260686279_upload-22833514-2461-4622-9259-2d9e9fa6ed9b

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        @Matt said:

        Hey I recently got a batch of ten pro 3.3v pro minis from ebay, I removed vreg + LED on two of them and they no longer work... Well, I cant upload.

        Did you try to use side pins for Vcc/Gnd connections from usb-ttl adapter? It is known for some clones that Vcc/Gnd pins on programming header do not work after regulator and led are removed and side pins must be used for uploading sketch...

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        • ferroF ferro

          @Matt said:

          Hey I recently got a batch of ten pro 3.3v pro minis from ebay, I removed vreg + LED on two of them and they no longer work... Well, I cant upload.

          Did you try to use side pins for Vcc/Gnd connections from usb-ttl adapter? It is known for some clones that Vcc/Gnd pins on programming header do not work after regulator and led are removed and side pins must be used for uploading sketch...

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          @ferro ooh hey, didn't know that... Will have a go. Thanks!

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          • M Matt

            @ferro ooh hey, didn't know that... Will have a go. Thanks!

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            @Matt said:

            @ferro ooh hey, didn't know that... Will have a go. Thanks!

            Nup, didn't work. Must have killed them somehow by removing the regulator. Have a third one running just fine, minus the LED.... Oh well.

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              Had further problems with intermittent sends. Sometimes on initial presentation it only sends the sketch name and not version number. Also sends are infrequent up to six hours apart. When it does send it often only sends one child_id when there are three to send.
              Previously I thought this was most likely an issue with a noisy boost converter. However I just tried replacing the 4.7uf cap on the radio with a 47uf one. Problem solved!
              Matt

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              • M Matt

                Had further problems with intermittent sends. Sometimes on initial presentation it only sends the sketch name and not version number. Also sends are infrequent up to six hours apart. When it does send it often only sends one child_id when there are three to send.
                Previously I thought this was most likely an issue with a noisy boost converter. However I just tried replacing the 4.7uf cap on the radio with a 47uf one. Problem solved!
                Matt

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                @Matt - Nice to hear problem solved! Its again the sensitive radio and the booster might be the cause since changing the cap worked.
                One trick is also to add a delay(10) between the presentations if possible. Sometimes the radio cant keep up or something...

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                  Gah! I ordered through the https://www.openhardware.io/order/4/PCB10X link from Itead but got the rev8 boards. Thought the "I always update the gerber files for sale" meant it was safe to order...

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                  • EfflonE Efflon

                    Gah! I ordered through the https://www.openhardware.io/order/4/PCB10X link from Itead but got the rev8 boards. Thought the "I always update the gerber files for sale" meant it was safe to order...

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                    @Efflon did the order say version m5 when you ordered? Which date did you place the order?

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                    • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                      @Efflon did the order say version m5 when you ordered? Which date did you place the order?

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                      @mfalkvidd I ordered January 2 and can't remember what version was stated. I'm quite sure I picked Itead because it had a higher version numer (and a slightly higher price), honestly don't remember. All I know is that I didn't read this thread but rather just browsed through the page and clicked order. Afterwards I realized it wasn't clear if it was the 5V or 3.3V version but the order said 5x5cm. I also missed to choose color but "grönt är skönt".
                      Guess what confused me most was the statement "It may say another rev. at the orderpage but this is not EasyPCB rev but the rev for manufacturer." causing me to be trigger happy :smile:

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                      • EfflonE Efflon

                        @mfalkvidd I ordered January 2 and can't remember what version was stated. I'm quite sure I picked Itead because it had a higher version numer (and a slightly higher price), honestly don't remember. All I know is that I didn't read this thread but rather just browsed through the page and clicked order. Afterwards I realized it wasn't clear if it was the 5V or 3.3V version but the order said 5x5cm. I also missed to choose color but "grönt är skönt".
                        Guess what confused me most was the statement "It may say another rev. at the orderpage but this is not EasyPCB rev but the rev for manufacturer." causing me to be trigger happy :smile:

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                        @Efflon - sorry to hear you got rev 8 if you wanted rev 9.
                        I wrote this notice just because itead was so slow updating to the right revision! I also spoke to hek about this a month ago according to my chat log.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          Sorry to hear... Checked the log. The order was for manufacturer revision 4 (which is what @sundberg84 call rev 8 ).

                          The system automatically increments the revision number each time an author makes a new release. Each manufacturer must set price on each revision(which in some cases may take a while if they do this manually). Until they've done that, any older revision where they've set a price is still available for purchase.

                          The revision is stated below the big order-button.

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                            Could anyone explain me, why position (polarity) of condensers 4.7uF on REV 8(blue) and REV 9 (red) are different?

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                              0_1485115385923_IMG_1116.JPG
                              Could anyone explain me, why position (polarity) of condensers 4.7uF on REV 8(blue) and REV 9 (red) are different?

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                              @Amput said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                              Could anyone explain me, why position (polarity) of condensers 4.7uF on REV 8(blue) and REV 9 (red) are different?

                              It's a bug in v8 fixed in v9, so v9 is correct, see link this post

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                                @SUNDBERG84 - Do you have a board/design for the RFM69 radio ?

                                Rergards,
                                Martin

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                                  @SUNDBERG84 - Do you have a board/design for the RFM69 radio ?

                                  Rergards,
                                  Martin

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                                  @martins - you can use NRF2RFM69 if you want to use RFM69 with Newbie PCB board. I'm using it too, works fine with 3.3V arduino. For 5V arduino you will need to add level logic converter too.

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                                    @martins - you can use NRF2RFM69 if you want to use RFM69 with Newbie PCB board. I'm using it too, works fine with 3.3V arduino. For 5V arduino you will need to add level logic converter too.

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                                    @ferro
                                    Pity because that would double the cost of the sensor board:

                                    Order PCBs for Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors : $15
                                    Order PCBs for NRF2RFM69 : $15

                                    Thanks,
                                    Martin

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                                      @Amput said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                                      Could anyone explain me, why position (polarity) of condensers 4.7uF on REV 8(blue) and REV 9 (red) are different?

                                      It's a bug in v8 fixed in v9, so v9 is correct, see link this post

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                                      @ferro said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                                      @Amput said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                                      Could anyone explain me, why position (polarity) of condensers 4.7uF on REV 8(blue) and REV 9 (red) are different?

                                      It's a bug in v8 fixed in v9, so v9 is correct, see link this post

                                      Thx for answer :-).

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                                      • martinsM martins

                                        @SUNDBERG84 - Do you have a board/design for the RFM69 radio ?

                                        Rergards,
                                        Martin

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                                        @martins - No, not at the moment. It has been asked before but I have never got my head around it.
                                        As i told before, you are happy to develop it yourself. I have some other things in my list but in the future maybe :)

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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