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💬 AC-DC double solid state relay module

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  • laster13L Offline
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    laster13
    wrote on last edited by
    #141

    thanks, I'll try. You say that your lamps are powered by electrical socket .
    Is mounting possible on simple sockets with neutral wire? (non commandées)?

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    • tonnerre33T Offline
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      tonnerre33
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by tonnerre33
      #142

      Sure you can use an electrical socket without switch control.
      But caution, max current is 2A ! It is ok for lamps but you can't supply a receiver which consumes more than 460VA per relay ( = 460W for resistive receiver).
      I didn't see protection for relays, be careful ;)

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      • laster13L Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #143

        I am trying to test a montage which I am not sure about and besides when I plug the pcb on the socket the lamp remains on. I invite you to read my post on the Domoticz forum.
        http://easydomoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2680&p=25219#p25219

        I am sorry for my english, I use the traducer of google

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        • Richard_SkeR Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #144

          Hi All,

          This is my first post on this site!!

          Yes this is a really good project but for the UK controlling a light inside of a wall switch you would need to do the following.

          Re-wire the ceiling rose as in the UK there is a live feed from the rose that is switched by the switch and then returns to the rose to the "switched live" See http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/project_images/lights_and_switches/ceilingroseb2.jpg

          Put an extra cable up to the ceiling rose with the return cable from the board that goes to the switched live and add an extra terminal in the ceiling rose to link the neutral to the other side of the lamp fitting.

          If the back box is metal, it would need to be changed to a plastic box , I wouldn't myself want to mount the board in an earthed metal box!!

          As other contributors have noted there isn't any fusing on the live and neutral feeds if the SSR were to fail short because of a short circuit in the lamp or ceiling rose then there could be a large current going through board that could potentially cause a fire, safety is always the first thought with any mains electrical circuit.

          I could see this board being used in a plastic box inline to a table lamp etc. but it would need a lot of work to re-wire your house if you intended to use it behind a wall switch.

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          • laster13L laster13

            I am trying to test a montage which I am not sure about and besides when I plug the pcb on the socket the lamp remains on. I invite you to read my post on the Domoticz forum.
            http://easydomoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2680&p=25219#p25219

            I am sorry for my english, I use the traducer of google

            tonnerre33T Offline
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            tonnerre33
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #145

            @laster13 Yes your schema is correct.
            The sketch has been modified by Nca78, you can try it first.
            The problem does not come from the unused switch, because i use this node without switch.

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            • E Offline
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              Eawo
              wrote on last edited by
              #146

              I'm going to do these for my light switches but what should I use for in wall on off switch without relay?

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              • HilltanH Offline
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                Hilltan
                wrote on last edited by
                #147

                The link to to DirtyPCBs is broken, got a new one?

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                • HilltanH Hilltan

                  The link to to DirtyPCBs is broken, got a new one?

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                  tonnerre33
                  Hardware Contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #148

                  @Hilltan Hello, i think this link will be ok : http://dirtypcbs.com/store/details/885/mysensors-v3-3-2-light-switch

                  For information, a few members have too many PCB of this node that's why if you are living in Vietnam or asia, Nca78 can send you PCB and if you are in france, i can send too (contact by pm for terms).

                  I use this node since 20 days ago, and it's working well ;)

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                  • johnym30J Offline
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                    johnym30
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #149

                    Hi everyone.
                    I can not find anywhere Slow Blow Fuse (250v 0.2A). Does anyone has an available link??
                    Thanks in advance.

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                    • johnym30J Offline
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                      johnym30
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #150

                      Never mind, got them. thank you!!!

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                      • laster13L Offline
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                        laster13
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #151

                        @tonnerre33
                        I will be really interested to buy you all the components you would no longer need. NRF, pcb, fuse thermal ... If you agree, can you tell me a list of what you offer thanks

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #152

                          If anyone in the UK is after boards/parts i have spares.

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                            Rodolfo Vieira
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #153

                            hello, anyone use this project with home assistant?

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                            • proddyP Offline
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                              proddy
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #154

                              Thanks for this. One question about the SSR. Does it matter if its a zero crossing relay or not if just switching lamps with fixed amps? That the difference between the G3MB-202P and G3MB-202PL. I'm not sure which to get.

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                              • proddyP proddy

                                Thanks for this. One question about the SSR. Does it matter if its a zero crossing relay or not if just switching lamps with fixed amps? That the difference between the G3MB-202P and G3MB-202PL. I'm not sure which to get.

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                                Nca78
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #155

                                @Paul-Derbyshire if you're buying on aliexpress at less than 3$ a relay, you're buying chinese clones like most of us here. I doubt they bothered implementing the zero-crossing function on the chinese clones...

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                                  HaM
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #156

                                  Hi,

                                  I love this project. This is almost exactly what I wanted to do by myself (but I have no knowledge in PCB design). As this project shouldn't require much power, have you ever though about using a dropping capacitor PSU (http://www.circuitsgallery.com/2012/07/transformer-less-ac-to-dc-capacitor-power-supply-circuit2.html) instead of the HLK-PM01 ?
                                  If this is a working solution, it would make your project even cheaper.

                                  An other question on the DS18B20. Wont the proximity with the relays (heat generators) will disturb the temperature reading ?

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                                  • HaMH HaM

                                    Hi,

                                    I love this project. This is almost exactly what I wanted to do by myself (but I have no knowledge in PCB design). As this project shouldn't require much power, have you ever though about using a dropping capacitor PSU (http://www.circuitsgallery.com/2012/07/transformer-less-ac-to-dc-capacitor-power-supply-circuit2.html) instead of the HLK-PM01 ?
                                    If this is a working solution, it would make your project even cheaper.

                                    An other question on the DS18B20. Wont the proximity with the relays (heat generators) will disturb the temperature reading ?

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                                    Nca78
                                    Hardware Contributor
                                    wrote on last edited by Nca78
                                    #157

                                    Hello !
                                    Transformerless design means there is not isolation between main voltage and low voltage parts. You can get electrocuted with 110/220V when touching the low voltage side. It means it can be used only in the case of a sealed box.

                                    For the temperature sensor the main source of heat is the hlk that heats up a lot. It's purpose is not to sense the temperature in the room, but to monitor the temperature inside the sensor and make sure there is not problem with the hlk overheating.

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                                    • Nca78N Nca78

                                      Hello !
                                      Transformerless design means there is not isolation between main voltage and low voltage parts. You can get electrocuted with 110/220V when touching the low voltage side. It means it can be used only in the case of a sealed box.

                                      For the temperature sensor the main source of heat is the hlk that heats up a lot. It's purpose is not to sense the temperature in the room, but to monitor the temperature inside the sensor and make sure there is not problem with the hlk overheating.

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                                      HaM
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #158

                                      @Nca78 Thanks for the advice.

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                                        A Former User
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #159

                                        Would it be possible tot change the relays to one (or two) triacs, keeping it's current features and also allowing it to dim lights?

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #160

                                          anyone found the Slow Blow Fuse (250v 0.2A) on aliexpress? if yes please link.

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