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  • RJ_MakeR Offline
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    RJ_Make
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    Looking for very small 220vac to 3.3vdc transformer module. I have a project that involves controlling 2 220V water heaters. The project box is fairly small, so the smaller the better.

    RJ_Make

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      something like this?
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-DC-Power-Supply-Isolation-module-Input-AC-90-240V-Output-DC-3-3V-500mA-/251365063335?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a86867aa7

      http://www.sa2avr.se

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        Maybe small usb wall charger for 1,4$, and regulator from 5V to 3.3V for 0,1$ would be good solution?

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          something like this?
          http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-DC-Power-Supply-Isolation-module-Input-AC-90-240V-Output-DC-3-3V-500mA-/251365063335?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a86867aa7

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          @Mrlynx That looks like it might work.. Thank you!

          RJ_Make

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          • jendrushJ jendrush

            Maybe small usb wall charger for 1,4$, and regulator from 5V to 3.3V for 0,1$ would be good solution?

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            @jendrush I think it would be to large, and I've not seen a 220v version before.

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            • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

              Looking for very small 220vac to 3.3vdc transformer module. I have a project that involves controlling 2 220V water heaters. The project box is fairly small, so the smaller the better.

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              @ServiceXp I've been looking at things like this http://www.digikey.com/product-highlights/us/en/cui-vsk-series-encapsulated-ac-dc-modules/853

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                @ServiceXp I've been looking at things like this http://www.digikey.com/product-highlights/us/en/cui-vsk-series-encapsulated-ac-dc-modules/853

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                There are smaller things too, http://www.cui.com/product/resource/pbk-3.pdf but I don't like the clearance on that component. and it has no temperature protection.. But there are tons of things to choose from. tell me if you find something you like.. :)
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                Edit; NOTE:
                If you are playing with mains BE CAREFUL about if you are buying a insulated one or not, You could have something like ~225v on your 0v and ~230v on 5v and if you touch this you will smoke.

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                • DammeD Damme

                  There are smaller things too, http://www.cui.com/product/resource/pbk-3.pdf but I don't like the clearance on that component. and it has no temperature protection.. But there are tons of things to choose from. tell me if you find something you like.. :)
                  Digikey search

                  Edit; NOTE:
                  If you are playing with mains BE CAREFUL about if you are buying a insulated one or not, You could have something like ~225v on your 0v and ~230v on 5v and if you touch this you will smoke.

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                  @Damme Awesome set of options. Thank You!!

                  Thanks for the warning, I'm a newb to electronics/arduino, but am very familiar with high voltage equipment. (HA-HVACR Tech.)

                  RJ_Make

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                  • jendrushJ jendrush

                    Maybe small usb wall charger for 1,4$, and regulator from 5V to 3.3V for 0,1$ would be good solution?

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                    @jendrush said:

                    Maybe small usb wall charger for 1,4$, and regulator from 5V to 3.3V for 0,1$ would be good solution?

                    For some projects, using cheap chargers can be a good option. However, I'd open any such cheap charger and have a look before using it. Some appear to be acceptably designed, and some appear to be dangerous designs, from the teardowns. For example:

                    http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html

                    He rated 2 out of the batch as downright dangerous.

                    Even with one which appears to have a reasonable design with enough separation, I would not be poking around in the sensors or PCB while they are currently powered from 230V with a cheap charger. Unplug first. And if you need power for programming or testing, use your normal USB supply (eg: a laptop or a high quality power supply) or batteries. Maybe that's just me, but this seems like a reasonably easy additional precaution. Even if the PCB has good separation, the insulation between windings of a transformer could be marginal, for example.

                    Most readers here probably already know this, just thought it was worth noting for anybody coming to this hobby more recently.

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